Path: news.duke.edu!newsgate.duke.edu!news.eng.convex.com!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed1.news.erols.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.69.200.61!mindspring!news.mindspring.com!user-2k7i881.dialup.mindspring.com!user From: edax@frenzy.mindspring.com (edax) Newsgroups: rec.games.bolo Subject: Re: Massaging -- What do we think? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 17:57:14 -0400 Organization: Cookie Monster Enterprises Lines: 61 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: user-2k7i881.dialup.mindspring.com X-Server-Date: 23 Oct 1997 21:54:51 GMT Xref: news.duke.edu rec.games.bolo:30972 In article , ehiris@theworld.withoutspam.mv.com (Eric Hiris) wrote: :> In article , :> edax@frenzy.mindspring.com (edax) wrote: :> -> My opinion is that the current massage 'trick' is perfectly acceptable. :> -> It's a skill that can be learned, that can add a good deal to the game. : :Okay yeah, anyone can learn it, but it just doesn't make sense. Imagine :you are a pillbox. You are strong, stout, and have an unlimited supply of :bang-bang. You see an enemy tank driving directly at you, now do you, the :pillbox, turn around and shoot behind you, where the tank would be if it :drove through you??? No. I think not. If a tank is directly next to you, :rubbing it's cute little nose against your wall, do you shoot :perpendicular to the location of the tank? No. : :That's my main objection, 'the massage' just isn't how things would :happen. Yes people can learn it, and some would say that it can add a good :deal to the game. I think it subtracts a good deal from the game, both in :terms of realism and giving an unfair advantage to those who play Bolo way :too much, so much that they have learned the massage trick... :^) : :In summary: pillboxes are people too. Then why the heck don't pb's shoot lgm's? Why does a wall take the same amount of trees as a road? How are you able to build a boat from trees that carries a heavy tank? How is it we can build roads and walls and boats all from trees? How come new tanks have lgms? Why does bolo allow you to use walls to shoot pb's? If I was a pb, I would fire from the side of the pb to kick tank butt. How do bases refuel? Where are the mines, ammo, etc. coming from? How exactly is my tank refueling on a base? What the heckers (kaxers?) is the problem with the 'physics' of a game not being perfect??? As for an unfair advantage, that's bs. It's an unfair advantage that noriko can do 25 diff. pill takes 98% of the time, and I can only do 10 98% of the time, if I'm lucky. It's unfair that chopin can hardline a pill better than I can. It's unfair that vert can drive better than me. It's unfair that BL knows the general strategy of bolo better than me. Yea, right. Games are *going* to be weighted to those who put more time in it. Otherwise, it's a random game in which you win or lose based on absolutly nothing you do. Where's the fun in that? So when you say: :that's my main objection, 'the massage' just isn't how things would :happen. Yes people can learn it, and some would say that it can add a good :deal to the game. I think it subtracts a good deal from the game, both in :terms of realism and giving an unfair advantage to those who play Bolo way :too much, so much that they have learned the massage trick... :^) I hope that tongue in cheek smiley at the end means that your post was a joke. And if it was, it wasn't very funny. But assuming you were trying to be funny, then I apologize, but I'm still posting this for the elucidation of BL, et al. CW ----------- I'm drunk on life, and it's raining outside. email: edax@mindspring.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Path: news.duke.edu!newsgate.duke.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!newsfeed.internetmci.com!204.156.128.20!news1.best.com!newshub.sdsu.edu!ssn662.chinalake.navy.mil!user From: nospam@yadda.yadda.yadda (BlackBeard) Newsgroups: rec.games.bolo Subject: Re: Massaging -- What do we think? Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 16:24:38 -0700 Organization: YoYoDyne Inc. Lines: 63 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: ssn662.chinalake.navy.mil Xref: news.duke.edu rec.games.bolo:30979 In article , edax@frenzy.mindspring.com (edax) wrote: > >Then why the heck don't pb's shoot lgm's? mutual non-aggression pact. LGM's/SGM's treaty of Elbonia 1939. > Why does a wall take the same amount of trees as a road? conservation of energy, it's a physics thing. > How are you able to build a boat from trees that carries a heavy tank? wood floats. (physics again) > How is it we can build roads and walls and boats all from trees? plank roads, wooden walls, wooden boats. Where's the problem? > How come new tanks have lgms? It was written into the procurement contract. AN-4775812-302 > Why does bolo allow you to use walls to shoot pb's? because the walls block the shot since they are in the line of fire.(physics) >If I was a pb, I would fire from the side of the pb to kick tank butt. You have yet to demonstrate the minimal intelligence to be a PB. > How do bases refuel? Underground tunnels. And no, you cannot see them. > Where are the mines, ammo, etc. coming from? Knowing the government, probably the lowest bidder. > How exactly is my tank refueling on a base? osmosis. (that physics thing again) > What the heckers (kaxers?) is the problem with the 'physics' of a game not >being perfect??? nothing. What the heck is wrong with the code being fixed when it is noticed that there is a mistake that allows something the programmer never intended? Play bolo. Don't play hax. Don't cheat. Don't exploit bugs. Don't whine if you lose. Don't ask for the game to be modified to compensate for your lack of skills. PLay bolo and have fun at it. Tommy"I remember this same argument like it was 6 years ago"Pickles BlackBeard Submarines once, Submarines twice... Former recipient of the 'Gurnard Good Deal'